Sen. JD Vance and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz participate in a debate at the CBS Broadcast Center on October 1 in New York City.
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Gov. Tim Walz claimed that Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation think tank’s?detailed right-wing blueprint?for the next Republican administration, says you’re going to have to register your pregnancy.
“Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies,” Walz said.
Facts First:?Walz’s claim is false. Project 2025 does not propose to make people register with any federal agency when they get pregnant. And there is no indication that a Trump-Vance administration is trying to create a new government entity to monitor pregnancies.
Project 2025 is firmly anti-abortion; it proposes, among other things, to criminalize the mailing of abortion medication and devices. But it does not propose to require people to register their pregnancies.
The?Project 2025 policy document, released in 2023, proposes that the federal government take steps to make sure it is receiving detailed after-the-fact, anonymous data from every state on abortions and miscarriages.?The vast majority of states?already submit anonymous abortion data to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention?on a voluntary basis?– the CDC has collected “abortion surveillance” data for decades – and?all?states already submit some anonymous miscarriage data?under federal law.
Minnesota, the state run by Walz, is one of the states that voluntarily submits abortion data to the CDC. And Minnesota?posts?anonymous abortion and miscarriage data on the state health department’s website?every year.
The Project 2025 policy document says the existing federal Department of Health and Human Services should “use every available tool, including the cutting of funds, to ensure that every state reports exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother’s state of residence, and by what method.”
The document also says the department “should also ensure that statistics are separated by category: spontaneous miscarriage; treatments that incidentally result in the death of a child (such as chemotherapy); stillbirths; and induced abortion.” And it says, “In addition, CDC should require monitoring and reporting for complications due to abortion and every instance of children being born alive after an abortion.”
In the context of the CDC, the word “monitoring” is used to mean statistical tracking. For example, the?existing?CDC webpage that displays anonymous state-by-state abortion data says, “Since 1987, CDC has monitored abortion-related deaths” through its?Pregnancy Mortality Surveillance System. Neither “monitored” nor “surveillance” means the CDC is spying on individuals during their pregnancies.
Trump dodged the question when asked in a Time magazine?interview?earlier this year whether states should monitor women’s pregnancies to ensure compliance with an abortion ban, saying “I think they might do that” but that “you’ll have to speak to the individual states.” Walz is free to criticize Trump for this answer, but nowhere in the interview did Trump make an actual proposal to create a new pregnancy-monitoring government body.
Heritage Foundation Vice President Roger Severino?wrote?on social media earlier this month that Project 2025 “merely recommends CDC restore the decades-long practice of compiling *anonymous* abortion statistics for all states” – and noted that Minnesota already compiles such data.
Vance denied that a Trump-Vance administration would create a federal pregnancy monitoring agency when asked by CBS moderator Norah O’Donnell.
“Certainly, we won’t,” Vance said.